7.26.2006
First Concert anyone?
Since we are now at the depths of Jethro Tull discussions I thought this may be interesting.
IUP has hosted concerts over the years. I suspect many of yunz saw your first big rock show at Fisher Auditorium or the Field House. What was your first concert experience in Indiana?
Oddly, I can't recall mine, but those brownies sure were good!
Really though, I'm not exactly sure of my first rock show in Indiana. I recall I almost got tix to see Billy Joel. Almost. I may have seen Kansas. I do remember seeing Todd Rundgren and Utopia with Starcastle opening up. But I'm not sure if that was my first rock show in Indiana.
I do know I have not seen many rock shows in Indiana. Three shows, maybe.
Let's here from some of the peanuts out there....
IUP has hosted concerts over the years. I suspect many of yunz saw your first big rock show at Fisher Auditorium or the Field House. What was your first concert experience in Indiana?
Oddly, I can't recall mine, but those brownies sure were good!
Really though, I'm not exactly sure of my first rock show in Indiana. I recall I almost got tix to see Billy Joel. Almost. I may have seen Kansas. I do remember seeing Todd Rundgren and Utopia with Starcastle opening up. But I'm not sure if that was my first rock show in Indiana.
I do know I have not seen many rock shows in Indiana. Three shows, maybe.
Let's here from some of the peanuts out there....
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I must have been with you, because I remember that. But Cheap Trick opened for another band (and we hated Cheap Trick). I think the other band actually WAS Kansas. Ask Sherry if she went.
That Todd Rundgren show ruled. I went with Chip and Mike Schneider.
Cheap Trick opened for Kansas in 1977.
Cheap Trick opened for Kansas in 1977.
Cheap Trick opened for Kansas- maybe 1977. The crowd at the field hosue hated Cheap Trick, but loved Kansas. I can't believe Eric remembered Starcastle! Wow! Nice work.
I saw Arlo Guthrie about the same time in Fisher Aud. Stuart Reitz & I had tickets where the sound board was, so they put us in the orchestra pit. That felt really cool.
I saw Arlo Guthrie about the same time in Fisher Aud. Stuart Reitz & I had tickets where the sound board was, so they put us in the orchestra pit. That felt really cool.
So let me get this straight - Eric and Ian were at the Rundgren concert too ? This was obviously before we knew each other. Anyone else at that show?
BTW, Tull played Fisher Auditorium @ IUP last November.
BTW, Tull played Fisher Auditorium @ IUP last November.
"Cheap Trick opened for Kansas in 1977" How do you REMEMBER that?
When was Todd Rundgren? I don't remember it but can't believe I would have missed it.
I never really went to concerts most of my adulthood, only at IUP, and then within the last few years.
When was Todd Rundgren? I don't remember it but can't believe I would have missed it.
I never really went to concerts most of my adulthood, only at IUP, and then within the last few years.
Wow. I'm amazed people remember the opening band (Cheap Trick) but not the hot band of the moment. Yunz didn't sing along with "Dust in the Wind"?
I think I went with Ian and Jim Gordon to the Rundgren/Utopia show. Maybe Dave Putt as well. We were a sort of gang of four back then.
The only other shows I recall seeing at IUP were both at Fisher - the Thompson Twins with Re-Flex opening; and Squeeze with the dB's opening. Both were sometime between 83 and 87, and I had logged a few dozen concerts by then.
Another early show I recall was one of my first out-of-town experiences. Geoff Day, Jim Gordon and I went to Penn State to see Genesis. Tix were $6 and it was just days before "...and Then There Were Three..." came out with "Follow You, Follow Me" (my LEAST fave Genesis tune). That was a fabulous show as it featured lots of their earlier stuff. I hope this spurs Geoff to contribute some memories here.
I think I went with Ian and Jim Gordon to the Rundgren/Utopia show. Maybe Dave Putt as well. We were a sort of gang of four back then.
The only other shows I recall seeing at IUP were both at Fisher - the Thompson Twins with Re-Flex opening; and Squeeze with the dB's opening. Both were sometime between 83 and 87, and I had logged a few dozen concerts by then.
Another early show I recall was one of my first out-of-town experiences. Geoff Day, Jim Gordon and I went to Penn State to see Genesis. Tix were $6 and it was just days before "...and Then There Were Three..." came out with "Follow You, Follow Me" (my LEAST fave Genesis tune). That was a fabulous show as it featured lots of their earlier stuff. I hope this spurs Geoff to contribute some memories here.
Uh,Eric, they couldn't sing along with "Dust In The Wind" - it hadn't been recorded yet. They likely sang along with "Carry On My Wayward Son" or "Cheyenne Anthem".
Todd Rundgren was fall of 1977. You were probably still recovering from Kansas.
How do I remember that stuff? I remember Cheap Trick because I loved their first album, still do in fact, but didn't really want to see Kansas and by the time I tried to get tickets it was sold out.
Todd Rundgren was fall of 1977. You were probably still recovering from Kansas.
How do I remember that stuff? I remember Cheap Trick because I loved their first album, still do in fact, but didn't really want to see Kansas and by the time I tried to get tickets it was sold out.
Dave Surtasky (of IUP BillBoard fame) has a great story about when Bob Dylan played IUP. Joe, any chance for a guest blog from Dave?
I remember hearing "Magic Man" by Heart at a party after Swingin' High (??) for the first time in J9's basement and being told it was about Charles Manson. That freaked me out and I almost got scared off of hanging with the cool kids and strongly considered going back to spending my days with fly-tiers, trappers and bottle collectors.
I saw Duke Elligton and his band and Richard Harris in Camelot at Fischer. How much do you think they drank in the green room before going on stage?
I saw Duke Elligton and his band and Richard Harris in Camelot at Fischer. How much do you think they drank in the green room before going on stage?
when I was in college, we used to make extra bucks by working the big bus and truck shows that came into Fisher. Mostly we worked the load in and out which was really hard work that lasted all day and long into the night. One time, I got a gig as the dresser for the men's Chorus for Annie.
I could have made a lot of money that night.
I could have made a lot of money that night.
We hated Cheap Trick cause the lead guitarist spit his picks at us. Gracie, I saw Hall & Oates and Chuck M too. AND my favorite electric violinist Jean-Luc Ponty.
Which concert was it that the crowd broke the fieldhouse windows?
Which concert was it that the crowd broke the fieldhouse windows?
There's a really funny version of White Riot by Cracker.
when I was IUP, I just remember lame bands like The Outlaws and Mike Farrell from MASH- but the again, by the time I was in college, I was always broke and couldn't afford to see anyone good anyway.
Chip's band Learn How played a concert in Fisher. I was gone by then, but I bet they were awesome. They had a great song called The Fall of Saigon.
when I was IUP, I just remember lame bands like The Outlaws and Mike Farrell from MASH- but the again, by the time I was in college, I was always broke and couldn't afford to see anyone good anyway.
Chip's band Learn How played a concert in Fisher. I was gone by then, but I bet they were awesome. They had a great song called The Fall of Saigon.
Boz and I went to see the Doobie Brothers at Three Rivers. Also saw CDB at Shriner Aud. Chicago and YES at the Civic Arena. Can't remember any more.
Ian I saw the Clash, Violent Femmes, Billy Idol, David Bowie, Fleetwood Mac, The Cure and The Greatful Dead all in and around Chicago. The last concert I saw was Wynnona Judd, here in Falls Church, how times have changed...
Ian I saw the Clash, Violent Femmes, Billy Idol, David Bowie, Fleetwood Mac, The Cure and The Greatful Dead all in and around Chicago. The last concert I saw was Wynnona Judd, here in Falls Church, how times have changed...
A bunch of us went to see Bowie in Hershey on the Let's Dance tour- Roseann, Joe and Eric and Chip I think. Isn't that right? I wore pointy red shows and this vintage bright yellow double breasted jacket that I loved.
true story- I saw and spoke to Geoff at an Icycle Works show in Pittsburgh at some club in about, what, 85? They had one hit. I can't remember what it was. I don't think Geoff knew who i was.
Hansmann was the one who knew all about all the good shows, though.
One of my favorite "shows" was a Pittsburgh "punk" band called Carsickness playing in the basement of the old Student Union- yards from the ping-pong table. This must have been around 1980 or so. I think a group of about 8 of us went. We were the only ones there. They were fun and played the songs we wanted to hear - again, Hansmann- what was their "hit?"
In Seattle, I went to a lot of shows. We were there right when Nirvana and Pearl Jam hit it big. We didn't take nearly enough smack to feel welcome at their gigs. A cook from a restaurant where Heidi worked as a waitress (and was a friend of Heidi's) was the drummer in Pete Droge's band- a sort of minor figure in alternative rock.
I remember we went to a club in about 89 or early 90 before grunge had a name, but all the Seattle bands were kinda playing the same type of stuff. I thought it sounded like old Ten Years After or Mike Bloomfield stuff from the late 60's and didn't much care for it.
All the teenage junkie runaways that lived on or about this street called Broadway used to really like Nirvana. I've never seen so many drug addled white runaway kids living on the streets as I did in Seattle in the late 80's/early 90's.
But I never lived in the Haight.
And I do have a faint recollection about Water Street between 11th & 12th. Were there a lot of drug addled white runaway kids living on that street?
Joe's has a great story about being in the green room with Dizzy Gilespie. Joe has actually worked with some of the great musicians rather than me- who paid money to see minor acts only to mock them years later.
true story- I saw and spoke to Geoff at an Icycle Works show in Pittsburgh at some club in about, what, 85? They had one hit. I can't remember what it was. I don't think Geoff knew who i was.
Hansmann was the one who knew all about all the good shows, though.
One of my favorite "shows" was a Pittsburgh "punk" band called Carsickness playing in the basement of the old Student Union- yards from the ping-pong table. This must have been around 1980 or so. I think a group of about 8 of us went. We were the only ones there. They were fun and played the songs we wanted to hear - again, Hansmann- what was their "hit?"
In Seattle, I went to a lot of shows. We were there right when Nirvana and Pearl Jam hit it big. We didn't take nearly enough smack to feel welcome at their gigs. A cook from a restaurant where Heidi worked as a waitress (and was a friend of Heidi's) was the drummer in Pete Droge's band- a sort of minor figure in alternative rock.
I remember we went to a club in about 89 or early 90 before grunge had a name, but all the Seattle bands were kinda playing the same type of stuff. I thought it sounded like old Ten Years After or Mike Bloomfield stuff from the late 60's and didn't much care for it.
All the teenage junkie runaways that lived on or about this street called Broadway used to really like Nirvana. I've never seen so many drug addled white runaway kids living on the streets as I did in Seattle in the late 80's/early 90's.
But I never lived in the Haight.
And I do have a faint recollection about Water Street between 11th & 12th. Were there a lot of drug addled white runaway kids living on that street?
Joe's has a great story about being in the green room with Dizzy Gilespie. Joe has actually worked with some of the great musicians rather than me- who paid money to see minor acts only to mock them years later.
Right on with the crowd at the Bowie Show I think.
Carsickness - "Happy Worker". That was me and you, Chip, Anne, Laura Wilson, Greg Giovanni, Gene Haldeman and maybe another person. Maybe not Greg.
Didn't you tell me you used to see the Posies in Seattle? I always thought they were a great pop band. And didn't you tell me you saw the mighty Squirrels? I think I remember talking about their rock medley of Wizard of Oz songs....
Carsickness - "Happy Worker". That was me and you, Chip, Anne, Laura Wilson, Greg Giovanni, Gene Haldeman and maybe another person. Maybe not Greg.
Didn't you tell me you used to see the Posies in Seattle? I always thought they were a great pop band. And didn't you tell me you saw the mighty Squirrels? I think I remember talking about their rock medley of Wizard of Oz songs....
yeah, I loved the Posies- we thought they were going to be huge. they weren't. They were small. I remember seeing the Squirrels at a loft party at a friend of ours. They used to do Clifford Odets plays and show 50's era fettish films there. The Squirrels were the ulitmate party band- fun - great fun, but probably a bit drunk.
The Squirrels did Clifford Odets plays and showed fetish movies? Or your friends did? The first is a lot more compelling and would definitely boost their cache with me were it true. What a great concept for a pop band - "We're gonna do one more song, take a little break and come back with Act 2 of AWAKE AND SING and some Bettie Page flicks. Thanks for coming and don't forget to tip the servers."
Red Farm Films (or something like that) was their name. They lived there, worked there and had performances there. It was just north of the Pike Street Market. It was a neighborhood called Bell Town.
Some nights they would do Clifford Odets plays, some night they would show fettish films and some nights they had the Squirrels playing and everyone danced a lot (well, not me so much).
Once they showed a documentary about a state metal hospital in Mass in the 1960's. To this day, it remains the most disturbing thing I've seen in my life (well aside from Chip playing a dinosaur in A Thurbur Carnival).
Some nights they would do Clifford Odets plays, some night they would show fettish films and some nights they had the Squirrels playing and everyone danced a lot (well, not me so much).
Once they showed a documentary about a state metal hospital in Mass in the 1960's. To this day, it remains the most disturbing thing I've seen in my life (well aside from Chip playing a dinosaur in A Thurbur Carnival).
I just found the name of it:
"Titicut Follies"
It was very, very disturbing.
And yet, not as disturbing as Chip.
Thank you, thank you very much segues are my business ladies and gentlemen.
....in a white wine sauce.
"Titicut Follies"
It was very, very disturbing.
And yet, not as disturbing as Chip.
Thank you, thank you very much segues are my business ladies and gentlemen.
....in a white wine sauce.
Oh yes. Titicut Follies. That's definitely not for the faint of heart - not even for those stern of heart. I saw that and Shock Corridor on the same night - was working on ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOOS NEST and the director showed them to the cast. Talk about a complete party killer.
That reminds Ian: recall me renting a copy of "I spit on your grave"? and watching it with you and some others for some reason and discovering it wasn't quite the campy, John Water-esque cult classic we were expecting?
Oh yes Tim, I remember that well. It was really creepy and, well, sick. Was it just the beginning of video tapes? Maybe it was in Beta?
By the way, watching Pink Flamingos in the IUP library a couple years later- others were amused and delighted. I didn't have the stomach for it. I never quite had the proper appreciation for chicken sex.
By the way, watching Pink Flamingos in the IUP library a couple years later- others were amused and delighted. I didn't have the stomach for it. I never quite had the proper appreciation for chicken sex.
Carsickness....the Pittsburgh version of the Clash. Cool band for their day. They played Allegheny College several times during my years there. They may have even played there on one of the weekends that Ian, Chip and Joe came for a visit.
I fogot that Roseann came along on the Bowie expedition. That was one cool show.
And guess what, I saw Icicleworks in Pittsburgh as well! They played a disco called Heaven and I think a local band called ICU opened up. A carload came in from Allegheny for this show, but I can't remember bumping into any of yunz. Geez...for a while there Heaven was the only place for decent shows in PGH. I saw Iggy Pop, X, and the Fleshtones there. Possibly others but they don't spring to mind.
Geoff I had no idea you we a DJ at WPIT. I was a college DJ as well at Allegheny and tried to make a career of it. Unfortunately in 1984 they all laughed at me when I tried to convince program directors to go with a modern rock format. I still do two or three on-air shifts a year at the WVU college radio station - U92FM.
BTW Geoff, I saw OMD at the Syria Mosque ballroom on the Crush tour. They were incredible!
And since we have turned to odd movies, I remember Ian and I saw "Eraserhead" on the IUP campus. It wasn't at Fisher but at a smaller theatre in the music hall I believe.
I fogot that Roseann came along on the Bowie expedition. That was one cool show.
And guess what, I saw Icicleworks in Pittsburgh as well! They played a disco called Heaven and I think a local band called ICU opened up. A carload came in from Allegheny for this show, but I can't remember bumping into any of yunz. Geez...for a while there Heaven was the only place for decent shows in PGH. I saw Iggy Pop, X, and the Fleshtones there. Possibly others but they don't spring to mind.
Geoff I had no idea you we a DJ at WPIT. I was a college DJ as well at Allegheny and tried to make a career of it. Unfortunately in 1984 they all laughed at me when I tried to convince program directors to go with a modern rock format. I still do two or three on-air shifts a year at the WVU college radio station - U92FM.
BTW Geoff, I saw OMD at the Syria Mosque ballroom on the Crush tour. They were incredible!
And since we have turned to odd movies, I remember Ian and I saw "Eraserhead" on the IUP campus. It wasn't at Fisher but at a smaller theatre in the music hall I believe.
Not me for Erasehead Eric. Must have been your other friend Ian.
It was "Heaven" - maybe they played two nights or something. We definately would have seen each other. I went with my girlfriend of the time.
Scott Brown was also heavy into radio at WIUP. I played around a bit, but never got a shift. By the way, from the time I was 14 until i was about 17, i wanted to be a DJ when i grew up. I was even accepted to penn state as a commmunications major. But, jeez- DJs are almost as bad off as actors. Talk about a tough gig.
It was "Heaven" - maybe they played two nights or something. We definately would have seen each other. I went with my girlfriend of the time.
Scott Brown was also heavy into radio at WIUP. I played around a bit, but never got a shift. By the way, from the time I was 14 until i was about 17, i wanted to be a DJ when i grew up. I was even accepted to penn state as a commmunications major. But, jeez- DJs are almost as bad off as actors. Talk about a tough gig.
I went to pickup gf in Mars pa in rainstorm for Thompson twins but she dumped me and because of bomb scare asked a dz because suddenly I had balls and it was great show! Of course being security for corey hart band and their beer cooler backstage Fisher was pretty fun night !!
I went to pickup gf in Mars pa in rainstorm for Thompson twins but she dumped me and because of bomb scare asked a dz because suddenly I had balls and it was great show! Of course being security for corey hart band and their beer cooler backstage Fisher was pretty fun night !!
Of course donnie iris and Billy price & keystone rythym band made 2x a year stops at iup as,well as ic housrockers in early 80's
I went to pickup gf in Mars pa in rainstorm for Thompson twins but she dumped me and because of bomb scare asked a dz because suddenly I had balls and it was great show! Of course being security for corey hart band and their beer cooler backstage Fisher was pretty fun night !!
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